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Our 1997 explorer sohc tanked the engine awile back due to the infamous cam tensioner issue. The dealer wouldnt do a thing even after we said we’d pay 5000 to put a new motor in it. They said they couldnt get a motor and there was nothing they could do. Having few options we had a 1998 sohc with 3000 miles put in it. Car ran great for about a month than began to have intermittent problems starting. The car would stumble upon starting (only on occassion) than clear up and be fine. Than it began to not start on occassion. You’d crank the engine and no start. Let it sit a minute or two and it would start stumble and be fine. Now it has gotten to the point where it wont start at all. This car has been a nightmare and the dealer (payton wright in texas) has never been of any value. Anyone have this starting problem before?

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>Our 1997 explorer sohc tanked the engine awile back due to the infamous cam >tensioner issue. The dealer wouldnt do a thing even after we said we’d pay >5000 to put a new motor in it. They said they couldnt get a motor and there >was nothing they could do. Having few options we had a 1998 sohc with 3000 >miles put in it. Car ran great for about a month than began to have >intermittent problems starting. The car would stumble upon starting (only on >occassion) than clear up and be fine. Than it began to not start on >occassion. You’d crank the engine and no start. Let it sit a minute or two >and it would start stumble and be fine. Now it has gotten to the point where >it wont start at all. This car has been a nightmare and the dealer (payton >wright in texas) has never been of any value. Anyone have this starting >problem before?

What did you do to piss off the dealer? That’s the only reason I can think of for what you say happened. As for the problem, is it fuel related, or ignition? Bill Funk   "First, it was not a strip bar, it was an erotic club. And second, what can I say? I’m a night owl."         – M. Barry,  Mayor of Washington,DC

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I would suggest a different dealer in getting the SOHC problem fixed. Or you can get another with more reliable OHC V6 or V8. SOHC has had problems from day one and the ’99s or the ’00s has been better, but still not completely resolved. Good luck, Shane * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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<What did you do to piss off the dealer? That’s the only reason I can think of for what you say happened.> I understand your question because that situation was so unbelieveable. Fact is I doubt you would find many people who were as kicked back about something like this as I was. The car was out of warranty and I wasnt asking them to pay a dime, just get the car running. I was willing to pay the 5 grand to get the engine and they flat said they couldnt get one. No argueing, no heated words, just a matter of fact conversation on both sides. It was so comical I left laughing, just couldnt believe it. Some day I’ll write ford. The only good part of getting older is I’ve learned it just doesnt help to get in heated exchanges about anything. Believe it or not it is true.

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I have to top up my radiator monthly, its a new radiator, no visible leaks, no overheating problems. Any ideas? — Bob O’Neil Please remove NO_SPAM. when replying

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Look for any steam coming out of your exhaust pipe – a sign of an engine crack or leaking head gasket. All cars have some steam on cold mornings, but cars with engine leaks have steam all the time in most cases.  Also, remember that water dripping slowly from the exhaust is normal and comes from the catalytic converter. The steam I refer to is an obvious change from normal. Check your motor oil – does it have any water droplets on the dipstick? Does the oil look like caramel soup? Any of these indicates an internal engine leak. Also, if you have the spark plugs changed, look for rust on one or two of them – also indicates an internal engine leak. If you have no internal leak, then you may have an external leak that is drying up – like a slow leak that drips on the exhaust pipes and evaporates before hitting the ground. You could also have a leak that only leaks under high pressure, such as when the engine is running faster than idle. Also, some leaks, such as leaky hoses will only leak after the engine is hot, and may only leak when the engine is both hot and just turned off (that is when pressure is highest). Use all these clues – they may help find your water loss cause. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I have to top up my radiator monthly, its a new radiator, no visible leaks, >no overheating problems. Any ideas? >– >Bob O’Neil >Please remove NO_SPAM. when replying

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Bob: What year is your car? dr bob "Bob O’Neil (Please remove NOSPAM when replying!)" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >I have to top up my radiator monthly, its a new radiator, no visible leaks, >no overheating problems. Any ideas? >– >Bob O’Neil >Please remove NO_SPAM. when replying

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My experience w/dummy lights such as the "check engine" light on any Chevy has been that what they actually report is spotty.  Any number of factors can lead to that light coming on/going off.   Towards 100k on most Chevys the O2 sensor may start to go, which would account for  the light…but again…it could be any number of things emissions relatedor otherwise. At 70k my ‘96 Blazer had the dummy light on and off sporadically for over three thousand miles.  Now it hasn’t come on again, and I’m almost up to 80K. But the only way to know for sure is to get the diagnostic code off the computer when the light is ON.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > I have a question, I was hoping someone here could help me with. > My dad has a 1995, 454, Chevy pick-up. He drove it 200 miles to get to my > house. When he got here, I checked the oil, and smoke came out of the > dipstick tube. What does this mean? Does it indicate a problem? > Also, a month later he pulled his camper 600 miles. On the way home the > engine light came on. It was on for about 50 to 100 miles. He stopped to > fill up with gas, and it went off. The temperature was fine, and the oil > pressure was holding at 60 Lbs. Any ideas? >                                        Randy

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Hi, I have a question, I was hoping someone here could help me with. My dad has a 1995, 454, Chevy pick-up. He drove it 200 miles to get to my house. When he got here, I checked the oil, and smoke came out of the dipstick tube. What does this mean? Does it indicate a problem? Also, a month later he pulled his camper 600 miles. On the way home the engine light came on. It was on for about 50 to 100 miles. He stopped to fill up with gas, and it went off. The temperature was fine, and the oil pressure was holding at 60 Lbs. Any ideas?                                        Randy

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> says… >Frank, I find it boring for one reason and one reason only.  We can all hide >behind the pc – there is no body language, not facial expressions, just >words, words, words. > I agree it is much easier for many posters to resort to spewing > insults than to keep it civil when you’re behind the ol’ computer. I respect > those posters that are able achieve their points and those who are > adept of the subtle put-down/sarcasm for those "idiots".

I suppose it depends how high ya stress levels are and if you are a greenhorn (novice) – I must admit I fell for the "trolls" at one time and, boy, did I entertain them or what!!! LOL > tracy>I agree that people ask for trouble by bringing up controversial topics – >yes, it does encourage heated debates etc and there is nothing unhealthy in >that – > I don’t think that people "ask" for trouble by bringing up controversial > topics- it’s part of the nature of this and other ng.s.

As a person of experience, a few months back I made an valid point about something very important to me in another ng, regarding the way we conduct ourselves in the health ng’s, and got the thrashing of my life by people who disagreed.  I find it hysterical cos I am sure a few of them ended up having sky high blood pressure afterwards.  I thought freedom of speech was acceptable, but obviously not! But I have to admit the spamming and private, and insulting, emails I also received was a little unnerving! > Good post Tracy.

Well, of course it is Frank, I am Tracy! Not at all modest most of the time LOL – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> frank

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says… >Frank, I find it boring for one reason and one reason only.  We can all hide >behind the pc – there is no body language, not facial expressions, just >words, words, words.

I agree it is much easier for many posters to resort to spewing insults than to keep it civil when you’re behind the ol’ computer. I respect those posters that are able achieve their points and those who are adept of the subtle put-down/sarcasm for those "idiots". tracy>I agree that people ask for trouble by bringing up controversial topics – >yes, it does encourage heated debates etc and there is nothing unhealthy in >that –

I don’t think that people "ask" for trouble by bringing up controversial topics- it’s part of the nature of this and other ng.s. Good post Tracy. frank

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > says… >Oh dear! It seems to me that no matter which newsgroup one goes to, there is >always gonna be a certain amount of backstabbing and bitching! > Yep. Unless the ng is strictly a support group you are going to have > differences of opinion which leads to insults/flaming. The more controversial > the ng or topic the greater the flaming. > tracy>Not very healthy, wouldnt you say???? > What’s the latest politically correct statement- "celebrate diversity" ? > Actually, I don’t think it’s unhealthy behavior. > frank

Frank, I find it boring for one reason and one reason only.  We can all hide behind the pc – there is no body language, not facial expressions, just words, words, words. I agree that people ask for trouble by bringing up controversial topics – yes, it does encourage heated debates etc and there is nothing unhealthy in that – I just feel sorry for the ones that get so damn serious about it all – and they do!! Oh well, live and let live, I suppose!! Cheers! Tracy :)

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says… >Oh dear! It seems to me that no matter which newsgroup one goes to, there is >always gonna be a certain amount of backstabbing and bitching!

Yep. Unless the ng is strictly a support group you are going to have differences of opinion which leads to insults/flaming. The more controversial the ng or topic the greater the flaming. tracy>Not very healthy, wouldnt you say???? What’s the latest politically correct statement- "celebrate diversity" ? Actually, I don’t think it’s unhealthy behavior. frank

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Re; the lemmings – do most humans enmasse decide to chuck themselves over a > > cliff on a seasonal basis?? > > Tracy :) > Yes they do.  It is called the "flu" shot. > Cee. > …because there’s no such thing as "influenza".  It’s a made-up > disease with a made-up virus as its supposed cause.  See, those > symptoms are all due to a Chalupa deficiency, dontcha know. > Hey Cee, go to your nearest Barnes & Noble and check out the January > 2002 issue of Smithsonian Magazine.  (You know, that tool of the > establishment?)  Anyway, start your reading on page 34.  That’s the > start of an article on that poor, deluded fool, Louis Pasteur. > That ought to give you plenty of fuel to fire your apoplectic fits > about the fallacy of the germ theory of disease. > Mark, MD

Oh dear! It seems to me that no matter which newsgroup one goes to, there is always gonna be a certain amount of backstabbing and bitching! Not very healthy, wouldnt you say????

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>Hey Cee, go to your nearest Barnes & Noble and check out the January >2002 issue of Smithsonian Magazine.  (You know, that tool of the >establishment?)  Anyway, start your reading on page 34.  That’s the >start of an article on that poor, deluded fool, Louis Pasteur. >That ought to give you plenty of fuel to fire your apoplectic fits >about the fallacy of the germ theory of disease.

If I have the time I will read the false and deluded information that you have posted.  In the meantime I will cling to the peer-reviewed, scientific journal articles that prove that Pasteur was a plageurist and an incompetent. Which do you prefer?  Magazine articles or the real stuff? Cee.

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> > Re; the lemmings – do most humans enmasse decide to chuck themselves over a > cliff on a seasonal basis?? > Tracy :) > Yes they do.  It is called the "flu" shot. > Cee.

…because there’s no such thing as "influenza".  It’s a made-up disease with a made-up virus as its supposed cause.  See, those symptoms are all due to a Chalupa deficiency, dontcha know. Hey Cee, go to your nearest Barnes & Noble and check out the January 2002 issue of Smithsonian Magazine.  (You know, that tool of the establishment?)  Anyway, start your reading on page 34.  That’s the start of an article on that poor, deluded fool, Louis Pasteur. That ought to give you plenty of fuel to fire your apoplectic fits about the fallacy of the germ theory of disease. Mark, MD

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> Re; the lemmings – do most humans enmasse decide to chuck themselves over a > cliff on a seasonal basis?? > Tracy :)

Yes they do.  It is called the "flu" shot. Cee.

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>> Re; the lemmings – do most humans enmasse decide to chuck themselves over a > cliff on a seasonal basis?? > Tracy :) > Yes they do.  It is called the "flu" shot.

In point of fact, the so-called "lemming effect" was a human creation, the work of a newsreel producer who staged the event deliberately for sensation, a fanciful projection upon wild creatures that fluctuate in population dramatically in the arctic climate they inhabit… —             _o                   Kristofer Dale,          _ <,_                  ragged individualist,    _____( )/ ( )_____            statistic at large… p.s. Learn and live, http://www.vitaletherapeutics.org

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> I sleep on my right side and lately I’ve been waking-up in the middle of the > night with a pain in my right arm about in the area where people are given > flu shots and vaccinations. I also have pain and some numbness in my right > hand. It all goes away once I change my sleeping position. > Does this sound like neuritis, bursitis or any other malady that ends with > "itis."  Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks. > "Just a thought. Can 10,000 lemmings be all wrong? Heck no. I mean what are > the odds of THAT  happening?

Check ya shoulder/collar bone region – conditions can radiate pain to other areas of the body. Re; the lemmings – do most humans enmasse decide to chuck themselves over a cliff on a seasonal basis?? Tracy :)

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>I sleep on my right side and lately I’ve been waking-up in the middle of the >night with a pain in my right arm about in the area where people are given >flu shots and vaccinations. I also have pain and some numbness in my right >hand. It all goes away once I change my sleeping position. >Does this sound like neuritis, bursitis or any other malady that ends with >"itis."  Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks.

It sounds like you are putting pressure on a nerve when you sleep.  Try reversing the head and foot of the bed, so you have to sleep on your left side to face the same wall or door or TV that you face now sleeping on your right side. Tsu Dho Nimh It is my job to completely create professional technology in order that we may seamlessly supply competitive data.

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> due to a high iron diet…sorry, I don’t know

Yeh .. you are right .. you DON’T know .. so .. take off .. It’s from sleeping too long in one spot and you’ve cut off the circulation. Send money to charity .. local .. in your region .. You are welcome .. Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus was a Vegetarian! http://www.nucleus.com/watchman Moses was a Mystic! http://www.nucleus.com/watchman/light.html

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>I sleep on my right side and lately I’ve been waking-up in the middle of the >night with a pain in my right arm about in the area where people are given >flu shots and vaccinations. I also have pain and some numbness in my right >hand. It all goes away once I change my sleeping position. >Does this sound like neuritis, bursitis or any other malady that ends with >"itis."  Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks.

CHECK THE TEETH!!!!! A good massage/physical therapist should be of some assistence with the symptom. As for the underlying cause, it HAS to be a deficiency of one or more Cell Salts…no wait a minute, its all due to a high iron diet…sorry, I don’t know what I was thinking, its gotta be Subluxations ™ no, its gotta be the teeth ’cause metal does not belong in the mouth.

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I sleep on my right side and lately I’ve been waking-up in the middle of the night with a pain in my right arm about in the area where people are given flu shots and vaccinations. I also have pain and some numbness in my right hand. It all goes away once I change my sleeping position. Does this sound like neuritis, bursitis or any other malady that ends with "itis."  Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks. "Just a thought. Can 10,000 lemmings be all wrong? Heck no. I mean what are the odds of THAT  happening?

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> I sleep on my right side and lately I’ve been waking-up in the middle of the > night with a pain in my right arm about in the area where people are given > flu shots and vaccinations. I also have pain and some numbness in my right > hand. It all goes away once I change my sleeping position. > Does this sound like neuritis, bursitis or any other malady that ends with > "itis."  Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks.

Is your bed worn out?  Maybe you need a new mattress. They wear out slowly, so often people don’t notice that they need a new one until it’s long past time it should have been replaced.

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> says… >Frank, I find it boring for one reason and one reason only.  We can all hide >behind the pc – there is no body language, not facial expressions, just >words, words, words. > I agree it is much easier for many posters to resort to spewing > insults than to keep it civil when you’re behind the ol’ computer. I respect > those posters that are able achieve their points and those who are > adept of the subtle put-down/sarcasm for those "idiots".

I suppose it depends how high ya stress levels are and if you are a greenhorn (novice) – I must admit I fell for the "trolls" at one time and, boy, did I entertain them or what!!! LOL > tracy>I agree that people ask for trouble by bringing up controversial topics – >yes, it does encourage heated debates etc and there is nothing unhealthy in >that – > I don’t think that people "ask" for trouble by bringing up controversial > topics- it’s part of the nature of this and other ng.s.

As a person of experience, a few months back I made an valid point about something very important to me in another ng, regarding the way we conduct ourselves in the health ng’s, and got the thrashing of my life by people who disagreed.  I find it hysterical cos I am sure a few of them ended up having sky high blood pressure afterwards.  I thought freedom of speech was acceptable, but obviously not! But I have to admit the spamming and private, and insulting, emails I also received was a little unnerving! > Good post Tracy.

Well, of course it is Frank, I am Tracy! Not at all modest most of the time LOL – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> frank

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says… >Frank, I find it boring for one reason and one reason only.  We can all hide >behind the pc – there is no body language, not facial expressions, just >words, words, words.

I agree it is much easier for many posters to resort to spewing insults than to keep it civil when you’re behind the ol’ computer. I respect those posters that are able achieve their points and those who are adept of the subtle put-down/sarcasm for those "idiots". tracy>I agree that people ask for trouble by bringing up controversial topics – >yes, it does encourage heated debates etc and there is nothing unhealthy in >that –

I don’t think that people "ask" for trouble by bringing up controversial topics- it’s part of the nature of this and other ng.s. Good post Tracy. frank

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > says… >Oh dear! It seems to me that no matter which newsgroup one goes to, there is >always gonna be a certain amount of backstabbing and bitching! > Yep. Unless the ng is strictly a support group you are going to have > differences of opinion which leads to insults/flaming. The more controversial > the ng or topic the greater the flaming. > tracy>Not very healthy, wouldnt you say???? > What’s the latest politically correct statement- "celebrate diversity" ? > Actually, I don’t think it’s unhealthy behavior. > frank

Frank, I find it boring for one reason and one reason only.  We can all hide behind the pc – there is no body language, not facial expressions, just words, words, words. I agree that people ask for trouble by bringing up controversial topics – yes, it does encourage heated debates etc and there is nothing unhealthy in that – I just feel sorry for the ones that get so damn serious about it all – and they do!! Oh well, live and let live, I suppose!! Cheers! Tracy :)

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says… >Oh dear! It seems to me that no matter which newsgroup one goes to, there is >always gonna be a certain amount of backstabbing and bitching!

Yep. Unless the ng is strictly a support group you are going to have differences of opinion which leads to insults/flaming. The more controversial the ng or topic the greater the flaming. tracy>Not very healthy, wouldnt you say???? What’s the latest politically correct statement- "celebrate diversity" ? Actually, I don’t think it’s unhealthy behavior. frank

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Re; the lemmings – do most humans enmasse decide to chuck themselves over a > > cliff on a seasonal basis?? > > Tracy :) > Yes they do.  It is called the "flu" shot. > Cee. > …because there’s no such thing as "influenza".  It’s a made-up > disease with a made-up virus as its supposed cause.  See, those > symptoms are all due to a Chalupa deficiency, dontcha know. > Hey Cee, go to your nearest Barnes & Noble and check out the January > 2002 issue of Smithsonian Magazine.  (You know, that tool of the > establishment?)  Anyway, start your reading on page 34.  That’s the > start of an article on that poor, deluded fool, Louis Pasteur. > That ought to give you plenty of fuel to fire your apoplectic fits > about the fallacy of the germ theory of disease. > Mark, MD

Oh dear! It seems to me that no matter which newsgroup one goes to, there is always gonna be a certain amount of backstabbing and bitching! Not very healthy, wouldnt you say????

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>Hey Cee, go to your nearest Barnes & Noble and check out the January >2002 issue of Smithsonian Magazine.  (You know, that tool of the >establishment?)  Anyway, start your reading on page 34.  That’s the >start of an article on that poor, deluded fool, Louis Pasteur. >That ought to give you plenty of fuel to fire your apoplectic fits >about the fallacy of the germ theory of disease.

If I have the time I will read the false and deluded information that you have posted.  In the meantime I will cling to the peer-reviewed, scientific journal articles that prove that Pasteur was a plageurist and an incompetent. Which do you prefer?  Magazine articles or the real stuff? Cee.

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> > Re; the lemmings – do most humans enmasse decide to chuck themselves over a > cliff on a seasonal basis?? > Tracy :) > Yes they do.  It is called the "flu" shot. > Cee.

…because there’s no such thing as "influenza".  It’s a made-up disease with a made-up virus as its supposed cause.  See, those symptoms are all due to a Chalupa deficiency, dontcha know. Hey Cee, go to your nearest Barnes & Noble and check out the January 2002 issue of Smithsonian Magazine.  (You know, that tool of the establishment?)  Anyway, start your reading on page 34.  That’s the start of an article on that poor, deluded fool, Louis Pasteur. That ought to give you plenty of fuel to fire your apoplectic fits about the fallacy of the germ theory of disease. Mark, MD

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> Re; the lemmings – do most humans enmasse decide to chuck themselves over a > cliff on a seasonal basis?? > Tracy :)

Yes they do.  It is called the "flu" shot. Cee.

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>> Re; the lemmings – do most humans enmasse decide to chuck themselves over a > cliff on a seasonal basis?? > Tracy :) > Yes they do.  It is called the "flu" shot.

In point of fact, the so-called "lemming effect" was a human creation, the work of a newsreel producer who staged the event deliberately for sensation, a fanciful projection upon wild creatures that fluctuate in population dramatically in the arctic climate they inhabit… —             _o                   Kristofer Dale,          _ <,_                  ragged individualist,    _____( )/ ( )_____            statistic at large… p.s. Learn and live, http://www.vitaletherapeutics.org

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> I sleep on my right side and lately I’ve been waking-up in the middle of the > night with a pain in my right arm about in the area where people are given > flu shots and vaccinations. I also have pain and some numbness in my right > hand. It all goes away once I change my sleeping position. > Does this sound like neuritis, bursitis or any other malady that ends with > "itis."  Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks. > "Just a thought. Can 10,000 lemmings be all wrong? Heck no. I mean what are > the odds of THAT  happening?

Check ya shoulder/collar bone region – conditions can radiate pain to other areas of the body. Re; the lemmings – do most humans enmasse decide to chuck themselves over a cliff on a seasonal basis?? Tracy :)

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>I sleep on my right side and lately I’ve been waking-up in the middle of the >night with a pain in my right arm about in the area where people are given >flu shots and vaccinations. I also have pain and some numbness in my right >hand. It all goes away once I change my sleeping position. >Does this sound like neuritis, bursitis or any other malady that ends with >"itis."  Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks.

It sounds like you are putting pressure on a nerve when you sleep.  Try reversing the head and foot of the bed, so you have to sleep on your left side to face the same wall or door or TV that you face now sleeping on your right side. Tsu Dho Nimh It is my job to completely create professional technology in order that we may seamlessly supply competitive data.

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> due to a high iron diet…sorry, I don’t know

Yeh .. you are right .. you DON’T know .. so .. take off .. It’s from sleeping too long in one spot and you’ve cut off the circulation. Send money to charity .. local .. in your region .. You are welcome .. Who loves ya. Tom — Jesus was a Vegetarian! http://www.nucleus.com/watchman Moses was a Mystic! http://www.nucleus.com/watchman/light.html

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>I sleep on my right side and lately I’ve been waking-up in the middle of the >night with a pain in my right arm about in the area where people are given >flu shots and vaccinations. I also have pain and some numbness in my right >hand. It all goes away once I change my sleeping position. >Does this sound like neuritis, bursitis or any other malady that ends with >"itis."  Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks.

CHECK THE TEETH!!!!! A good massage/physical therapist should be of some assistence with the symptom. As for the underlying cause, it HAS to be a deficiency of one or more Cell Salts…no wait a minute, its all due to a high iron diet…sorry, I don’t know what I was thinking, its gotta be Subluxations ™ no, its gotta be the teeth ’cause metal does not belong in the mouth.

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I sleep on my right side and lately I’ve been waking-up in the middle of the night with a pain in my right arm about in the area where people are given flu shots and vaccinations. I also have pain and some numbness in my right hand. It all goes away once I change my sleeping position. Does this sound like neuritis, bursitis or any other malady that ends with "itis."  Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks. "Just a thought. Can 10,000 lemmings be all wrong? Heck no. I mean what are the odds of THAT  happening?

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> I sleep on my right side and lately I’ve been waking-up in the middle of the > night with a pain in my right arm about in the area where people are given > flu shots and vaccinations. I also have pain and some numbness in my right > hand. It all goes away once I change my sleeping position. > Does this sound like neuritis, bursitis or any other malady that ends with > "itis."  Any ideas will be appreciated. Thanks.

Is your bed worn out?  Maybe you need a new mattress. They wear out slowly, so often people don’t notice that they need a new one until it’s long past time it should have been replaced.

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