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What did you do with your van?  Are you the same Charlene Blake that tells eveyone else not to trade their vans?   Pretty simple question, Charlene!  Where is this van of yours that you constantly whine about???? — Mike Manning

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MIKE     GIVE IT A REST

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> MIKE     GIVE IT A REST

IM WITH YOU MIKE BUDDY!!!! Charlene has lost a lot of credibility cause of this. Made a "deal with her devil". I will answer any question you are just charlene’s cheerleader. So get her tit out of your mouth and maybe you can see more clearly. tony jones note: email address has

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Wow, I think the bee hive has been hit again.

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  >Pretty simple question, Charlene!  Where is this van of yours that you   >constantly whine about???? Pretty simple answer, Mike.  Go back a couple of years in DejaNews, and you’ll see why.  She may (or may not) be under a legal covenent to not divulge the disposition of her faulty van.  I suspect your goading to have her tell you will get you nothing. But the fact remains that even if Charlene NEVER had a minivan, after doing the investigation she has, she is certainly credible in offering the advice she does.  She’s saved a lot of people a lot of money.  The only people she has COST money is Chrysler’s stockholders.  Maybe THEY’LL put some pressure on a corporate management that tenders defective new products.  I still hear the phrase ringing: "Hell, get ‘em out the door, we’ll fix ‘em in the field".  And if the corporation stood behind that dictum, fine!  But they didn’t.  They tried to sweep it under the carpet in the name of "driver error".  EX-SCUUUUUZE ME! As my sig says, "It’s how you play the game".  Somewhere in there, there’s the message "Don’t cheat".   —     * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *       For when the One Great Scorer comes to mark against your name,       He writes – not that you won or lost – but how you played the game.                                              Grantland Rice, 1941

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:snip snip — :  >Pretty simple question, Charlene!  Where is this van of yours that you :  >constantly whine about???? : retty simple answer, Mike.  Go back a couple of years in DejaNews, and :you’ll see why.  She may (or may not) be under a legal covenent to not :divulge the disposition of her faulty van.  I suspect your goading to :have her tell you will get you nothing. : I think Marv, that you’re missing their point entirerly. They fully realize that she is probably under some sort of gag order not to divulge where her "problematic van" ended up. The reason they are riding her about it is due to her adamant attitude about trading in ther vehicle as a way of dealing with the problem. She stated in previous posts that this is NOT the way to deal with the problem and that it plays directly into CC hands. (paraphrase, no direct quote) Yet, she is guilty herself of doing just this. I think the defining term here is hypocracy and that’s not a real popular character trait I look for in someone who’s information I may or may not use. What these folks are trying to show is that Charlene has a definate slant/bias against CC and therefore COULD be allowing that slant/bias to affect her posting, beliefs, and credibility. . However, in her interest, I post to Tony and Mike that the reason she’s not answering you is due to the fact that numerous poster’s have told her that negative reply’s in any form are only damaging to her credibility and maybe, just maybe, she’s trying to improve her record. The information (what is factual in nature) that she digs up and puts out is helpful. At least respect her for her work in that area. Michael J. Wright     (Thwart inserted to tick off moronic robots) 1997 Ford Explorer (Still loving it) 1991 Mazda B2600i Truck (Still going strong) 1968 Dodge Dart GT (Soon to be 440 powered) 1982 Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier (Presence, Horsepower and Firepower          still, a bitch to parallel park)

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The bottom line is, information is power, and the info. we trade in this news groupe has saved consumers alot of there had earned cash. Through info. gathered in this news groupe somone just rec. a check from CC for about 3K, for ABS brake work. That is some serious cash. KEEP THE INFO. FLOWING.

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> The bottom line is, information is power, and the info. we trade in this news > groupe has saved consumers alot of there had earned cash. Through info. > gathered in this news groupe somone just rec. a check from CC for about > 3K, for ABS brake work. That is some serious cash. KEEP THE INFO. > FLOWING.

No one has any problem whatsoever with keeping information flowing.  The information that Ms. Blake has provided has indeed benefitted many people. My problem with her is her attitude that a bunch a guys sat in a room conspiring on how to screw her over.  She is simply out to get her pound of flesh.  This is readily apparent in the tone of her posts, and her remarks. Numerous times I have seen someone post about a problem, only to see a response from Charlene about how her tranny failed.  "My 1958 Plymouth Fury just burnt out a taillight.  You would think these bulbs should last 30 years" and get a Charlene response of "It’s those execs in Detroit.  They want to hide the truth, BTW, let me tell you about my transmission that died at 12K miles". And her response to several people NOT to trade in their vehicle is extremely hypocritical, given she can not tell us what is the current status of her van. — Mike Manning 1989 Caravan 2.5L 5speed 1975 Dart Sport /6

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As I said in an earlier post, if it looks like a cospiracy, it more than likely is. Otherwise CC  would recall thier mistakes, and be done with it.

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:As I said in an earlier post, if it looks like a cospiracy, it more than likely :is. Otherwise CC  would recall thier mistakes, and be done with it. : Lets see then, if I use your logic, then if I think that your beliefs are unsound and that you are only here to champion charlene’s cause, then you more than likely are. After all, I’m not the only one to disagree with you. 1997 Ford Explorer XLT (Still Loving it) 1991 Mazda B2600i Truck (Hauls almost anything) 1968 Dodge Dart GT (Soon to be 440 powered) 1982 Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier (Presence, Horsepower and Firepower – still a bitch to parallel park) Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere is having a good time….

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> As I said in an earlier post, if it looks like a cospiracy, it more than likely > is. Otherwise CC  would recall thier mistakes, and be done with it.

Look out behind you warren, they are all out to get you….. — Mike Manning

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What did you do with your van?  Are you the same Charlene Blake that tells eveyone else not to trade their vans?   Pretty simple question, Charlene!  Where is this van of yours that you constantly whine about???? — Mike Manning

Response:

MIKE     GIVE IT A REST

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> MIKE     GIVE IT A REST

IM WITH YOU MIKE BUDDY!!!! Charlene has lost a lot of credibility cause of this. Made a "deal with her devil". I will answer any question you are just charlene’s cheerleader. So get her tit out of your mouth and maybe you can see more clearly. tony jones note: email address has

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Wow, I think the bee hive has been hit again.

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  >Pretty simple question, Charlene!  Where is this van of yours that you   >constantly whine about???? Pretty simple answer, Mike.  Go back a couple of years in DejaNews, and you’ll see why.  She may (or may not) be under a legal covenent to not divulge the disposition of her faulty van.  I suspect your goading to have her tell you will get you nothing. But the fact remains that even if Charlene NEVER had a minivan, after doing the investigation she has, she is certainly credible in offering the advice she does.  She’s saved a lot of people a lot of money.  The only people she has COST money is Chrysler’s stockholders.  Maybe THEY’LL put some pressure on a corporate management that tenders defective new products.  I still hear the phrase ringing: "Hell, get ‘em out the door, we’ll fix ‘em in the field".  And if the corporation stood behind that dictum, fine!  But they didn’t.  They tried to sweep it under the carpet in the name of "driver error".  EX-SCUUUUUZE ME! As my sig says, "It’s how you play the game".  Somewhere in there, there’s the message "Don’t cheat".   —     * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *       For when the One Great Scorer comes to mark against your name,       He writes – not that you won or lost – but how you played the game.                                              Grantland Rice, 1941

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:snip snip — :  >Pretty simple question, Charlene!  Where is this van of yours that you :  >constantly whine about???? : retty simple answer, Mike.  Go back a couple of years in DejaNews, and :you’ll see why.  She may (or may not) be under a legal covenent to not :divulge the disposition of her faulty van.  I suspect your goading to :have her tell you will get you nothing. : I think Marv, that you’re missing their point entirerly. They fully realize that she is probably under some sort of gag order not to divulge where her "problematic van" ended up. The reason they are riding her about it is due to her adamant attitude about trading in ther vehicle as a way of dealing with the problem. She stated in previous posts that this is NOT the way to deal with the problem and that it plays directly into CC hands. (paraphrase, no direct quote) Yet, she is guilty herself of doing just this. I think the defining term here is hypocracy and that’s not a real popular character trait I look for in someone who’s information I may or may not use. What these folks are trying to show is that Charlene has a definate slant/bias against CC and therefore COULD be allowing that slant/bias to affect her posting, beliefs, and credibility. . However, in her interest, I post to Tony and Mike that the reason she’s not answering you is due to the fact that numerous poster’s have told her that negative reply’s in any form are only damaging to her credibility and maybe, just maybe, she’s trying to improve her record. The information (what is factual in nature) that she digs up and puts out is helpful. At least respect her for her work in that area. Michael J. Wright     (Thwart inserted to tick off moronic robots) 1997 Ford Explorer (Still loving it) 1991 Mazda B2600i Truck (Still going strong) 1968 Dodge Dart GT (Soon to be 440 powered) 1982 Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier (Presence, Horsepower and Firepower          still, a bitch to parallel park)

Response:

The bottom line is, information is power, and the info. we trade in this news groupe has saved consumers alot of there had earned cash. Through info. gathered in this news groupe somone just rec. a check from CC for about 3K, for ABS brake work. That is some serious cash. KEEP THE INFO. FLOWING.

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> The bottom line is, information is power, and the info. we trade in this news > groupe has saved consumers alot of there had earned cash. Through info. > gathered in this news groupe somone just rec. a check from CC for about > 3K, for ABS brake work. That is some serious cash. KEEP THE INFO. > FLOWING.

No one has any problem whatsoever with keeping information flowing.  The information that Ms. Blake has provided has indeed benefitted many people. My problem with her is her attitude that a bunch a guys sat in a room conspiring on how to screw her over.  She is simply out to get her pound of flesh.  This is readily apparent in the tone of her posts, and her remarks. Numerous times I have seen someone post about a problem, only to see a response from Charlene about how her tranny failed.  "My 1958 Plymouth Fury just burnt out a taillight.  You would think these bulbs should last 30 years" and get a Charlene response of "It’s those execs in Detroit.  They want to hide the truth, BTW, let me tell you about my transmission that died at 12K miles". And her response to several people NOT to trade in their vehicle is extremely hypocritical, given she can not tell us what is the current status of her van. — Mike Manning 1989 Caravan 2.5L 5speed 1975 Dart Sport /6

Response:

As I said in an earlier post, if it looks like a cospiracy, it more than likely is. Otherwise CC  would recall thier mistakes, and be done with it.

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:As I said in an earlier post, if it looks like a cospiracy, it more than likely :is. Otherwise CC  would recall thier mistakes, and be done with it. : Lets see then, if I use your logic, then if I think that your beliefs are unsound and that you are only here to champion charlene’s cause, then you more than likely are. After all, I’m not the only one to disagree with you. 1997 Ford Explorer XLT (Still Loving it) 1991 Mazda B2600i Truck (Hauls almost anything) 1968 Dodge Dart GT (Soon to be 440 powered) 1982 Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier (Presence, Horsepower and Firepower – still a bitch to parallel park) Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere is having a good time….

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> As I said in an earlier post, if it looks like a cospiracy, it more than likely > is. Otherwise CC  would recall thier mistakes, and be done with it.

Look out behind you warren, they are all out to get you….. — Mike Manning

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