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Time is Ripe for Ruskie-Chrysler Car Times have changed.  Russia and America now enjoy peaceful relations, just like they did before the ‘17 revolution, and the time is ripe for a joint car venture.  Decades ago, the Soviets tried the American market and found it wanting.  Its a new ball game now. Russian engineering gets respect by the public and plenty of it.  Just look at the Proton and Soyuz rockets.  What rockets!  Dependable, safe, and you know there good just by looking at their exhaust plume – a nice clean flame, just like an O’Keefe & Merritt cooker.  No smoke belching like the Space Shuttle.  For patriotic sake, you guys make still tout the Shuttle, but not a single one of your would-be spacemen would take NASA up on a free ticket.  Someday NASA will shake off its "Need Another Seven Astronauts"and "Not Another Shuttle Accident" image (even the Ford Explorer and Bronco II are safer), but for now as we all know, they are completely and totally dependent on the better-than-world-class Russian rocketships and I am sure NASA pays plenty of bucks for the privilege. I am convinced that Russia can help us out with our car problems too.  They know how to design cheap and rugged machines of all kinds.  Under the Soviets, car companies took the back seat of the bus, so had no opportunity to strut their stuff.  But that was then and this is now. I would not hesitate to buy a finely Russian designed, Chrysler-Russian jointly built car, sold through Chrysler dealerships.   Just maybe that Tamaraw FX-like $10,000 diesel utility vehicle can be designed and brought to market in the States through such a consortium. I see no reason why the U.S. Govenment could not sponsor such a worthwhile project, since neither the Russian government nor Chrysler Corp. have the seed money to do it right.  I think it could be done for 1/85th of this year’s Iraqi war budget.  That’s a real bargain to recapture the low end vehicle market from the Asians.  We’re talking about a million units a year and all the jobs that go along with supplying materials, labor, sales and servicing. This is a serious post. I have copywrited it to be sure everything so stated here is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth and irrevocably correct in its entirety, now and in perpeturity.

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> The LADA and the NIVA(small 4×4) were imported into Canada from early 80s > until mid 90s, though the sales fell off alot in the mid 80s. > The Lada was ok, tractor like engine, but body was prone to rust. The NIVA > was tough. There are NIVA clubs still in Toronto area – they share old > parts to keep them on the road. > Wasn’t Lada the car where, if you put it in reverse, the speedometer would > run backwards?

The speedometer ran backwards in the K-car. Once while spinning the wheels while trying to get out of a snow bank I saw it go counter-clockwise to 90km/h. When the person tried drive it went all the way around, past 140, past the odometer, back over to 40 km/h

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> Time is Ripe for Ruskie-Chrysler Car > Times have changed.  Russia and America now enjoy peaceful relations, just > like they did before the ‘17 revolution, and the time is ripe for a joint > car venture.  Decades ago, the Soviets tried the American market and found > it wanting.  Its a new ball game now. > Russian engineering gets respect by the public and plenty of it.  Just look > at the Proton and Soyuz rockets.  What rockets!  Dependable, safe, and you > know there good just by looking at their exhaust plume – a nice clean > flame, just like an O’Keefe & Merritt cooker.  No smoke belching like the > Space Shuttle.

Damn NASA, getting incomplete combustion with hydrogen and oxygen.

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> Damn NASA, getting incomplete combustion with hydrogen and oxygen.

The boosters are solid fuel, not Hydrogen/Oxygen. Ted

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> The LADA and the NIVA(small 4×4) were imported into Canada from early 80s > until mid 90s, though the sales fell off alot in the mid 80s. > The Lada was ok, tractor like engine, but body was prone to rust. The NIVA > was tough. There are NIVA clubs still in Toronto area – they share old > parts to keep them on the road.

Wasn’t Lada the car where, if you put it in reverse, the speedometer would run backwards? — "If, at first, you don’t succeed, try again.  Then, quit; no use being a damned fool about it." – W. C. Fields

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>> The LADA and the NIVA(small 4×4) were imported into Canada from > early 80s until mid 90s, though the sales fell off alot in the mid > 80s. > The Lada was ok, tractor like engine, but body was prone to rust. > The NIVA was tough. There are NIVA clubs still in Toronto area – > they share old parts to keep them on the road. > Wasn’t Lada the car where, if you put it in reverse, the speedometer > would run backwards?

I’m also not sure that the Lada owed anything to Russian engineering or design. iirc They bought the plant, dies, and complete production capability from Fiat to build the Fiat 124 locally. — Rickety

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> Time is Ripe for Ruskie-Chrysler Car

Doofus, the top-selling car in Russia is the Lada, and AvtoVAZ production facilities cannot even keep up with the demand.  VAZ is not interested in export until they have saturation in the Russian domestic maker.  None of this is any big secret. Ted

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> Time is Ripe for Ruskie-Chrysler Car ><<snip>> > This is a serious post. I have copywrited it to be sure everything so > stated here is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth > and irrevocably correct in its entirety, now and in perpeturity.

Serious, you may be, knowledgeable, you are not. In non-legal definitions, "Copyright" effectively means that you "own" the rights to the work as published and that others cannot publish the work (a copy) without acknowledging your rights (often in the form of a royalty payment). For example, works of fact or fiction may be copyright. — Rickety

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> Time is Ripe for Ruskie-Chrysler Car > Doofus, the top-selling car in Russia is the Lada, and > AvtoVAZ production facilities cannot even keep up > with the demand.  VAZ is not interested in export > until they have saturation in the Russian domestic > maker.  None of this is any big secret.

The LADA and the NIVA(small 4×4) were imported into Canada from early 80s until mid 90s, though the sales fell off alot in the mid 80s. The Lada was ok, tractor like engine, but body was prone to rust. The NIVA was tough. There are NIVA clubs still in Toronto area – they share old parts to keep them on the road. James Linn

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>For patriotic sake, you guys make still tout the Shuttle, >but not a single one of your would-be spacemen would take NASA >up on a free ticket.

You lose. Where do I go pick that ticket up?

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> This is a serious post. I have copywrited it to be sure everything so > stated here is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth and > irrevocably correct in its entirety, now and in perpeturity.

Terminal seriousness, or a troll? Get a life, loser.

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| Time is Ripe for Ruskie-Chrysler Car | | Times have changed.  Russia and America now enjoy peaceful relations, just | like they did before the ‘17 revolution, and the time is ripe for a joint | car venture.  Decades ago, the Soviets tried the American market and found | it wanting.  Its a new ball game now. | | Russian engineering gets respect by the public and plenty of it.  Just look | at the Proton and Soyuz rockets.  What rockets!  Dependable, safe, and you | know there good just by looking at their exhaust plume – a nice clean | flame, just like an O’Keefe & Merritt cooker.  No smoke belching like the | Space Shuttle.  For patriotic sake, you guys make still tout the Shuttle, | but not a single one of your would-be spacemen would take NASA up on a free | ticket.  Someday NASA will shake off its "Need Another Seven Astronauts"and | "Not Another Shuttle Accident" image (even the Ford Explorer and Bronco II | are safer), but for now as we all know, they are completely and totally | dependent on the better-than-world-class Russian rocketships and I am sure | NASA pays plenty of bucks for the privilege. | | I am convinced that Russia can help us out with our car problems too. They | know how to design cheap and rugged machines of all kinds.  Under the | Soviets, car companies took the back seat of the bus, so had no opportunity | to strut their stuff.  But that was then and this is now. I would not | hesitate to buy a finely Russian designed, Chrysler-Russian jointly built | car, sold through Chrysler dealerships. | | Just maybe that Tamaraw FX-like $10,000 diesel utility vehicle can be | designed and brought to market in the States through such a consortium. I | see no reason why the U.S. Govenment could not sponsor such a worthwhile | project, since neither the Russian government nor Chrysler Corp. have the | seed money to do it right.  I think it could be done for 1/85th of this | year’s Iraqi war budget.  That’s a real bargain to recapture the low end | vehicle market from the Asians.  We’re talking about a million units a year | and all the jobs that go along with supplying materials, labor, sales and | servicing. | | This is a serious post. I have copywrited it to be sure everything so | stated here is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth and | irrevocably correct in its entirety, now and in perpeturity. | My guess is that a Russian vehicle would require $20,000 worth of work to meet all the federal crash, safety and emissions standards…now your $10,000 vehicle will cost $30,000 and it will still be a Russian POS when all is done.

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Time is Ripe for Ruskie-Chrysler Car Times have changed.  Russia and America now enjoy peaceful relations, just like they did before the ‘17 revolution, and the time is ripe for a joint car venture.  Decades ago, the Soviets tried the American market and found it wanting.  Its a new ball game now. Russian engineering gets respect by the public and plenty of it.  Just look at the Proton and Soyuz rockets.  What rockets!  Dependable, safe, and you know there good just by looking at their exhaust plume – a nice clean flame, just like an O’Keefe & Merritt cooker.  No smoke belching like the Space Shuttle.  For patriotic sake, you guys make still tout the Shuttle, but not a single one of your would-be spacemen would take NASA up on a free ticket.  Someday NASA will shake off its "Need Another Seven Astronauts"and "Not Another Shuttle Accident" image (even the Ford Explorer and Bronco II are safer), but for now as we all know, they are completely and totally dependent on the better-than-world-class Russian rocketships and I am sure NASA pays plenty of bucks for the privilege. I am convinced that Russia can help us out with our car problems too.  They know how to design cheap and rugged machines of all kinds.  Under the Soviets, car companies took the back seat of the bus, so had no opportunity to strut their stuff.  But that was then and this is now. I would not hesitate to buy a finely Russian designed, Chrysler-Russian jointly built car, sold through Chrysler dealerships.   Just maybe that Tamaraw FX-like $10,000 diesel utility vehicle can be designed and brought to market in the States through such a consortium. I see no reason why the U.S. Govenment could not sponsor such a worthwhile project, since neither the Russian government nor Chrysler Corp. have the seed money to do it right.  I think it could be done for 1/85th of this year’s Iraqi war budget.  That’s a real bargain to recapture the low end vehicle market from the Asians.  We’re talking about a million units a year and all the jobs that go along with supplying materials, labor, sales and servicing. This is a serious post. I have copywrited it to be sure everything so stated here is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth and irrevocably correct in its entirety, now and in perpeturity.

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| Time is Ripe for Ruskie-Chrysler Car | | Times have changed.  Russia and America now enjoy peaceful relations, just | like they did before the ‘17 revolution, and the time is ripe for a joint | car venture.  Decades ago, the Soviets tried the American market and found | it wanting.  Its a new ball game now. | | Russian engineering gets respect by the public and plenty of it.  Just look | at the Proton and Soyuz rockets.  What rockets!  Dependable, safe, and you | know there good just by looking at their exhaust plume – a nice clean | flame, just like an O’Keefe & Merritt cooker.  No smoke belching like the | Space Shuttle.  For patriotic sake, you guys make still tout the Shuttle, | but not a single one of your would-be spacemen would take NASA up on a free | ticket.  Someday NASA will shake off its "Need Another Seven Astronauts"and | "Not Another Shuttle Accident" image (even the Ford Explorer and Bronco II | are safer), but for now as we all know, they are completely and totally | dependent on the better-than-world-class Russian rocketships and I am sure | NASA pays plenty of bucks for the privilege. | | I am convinced that Russia can help us out with our car problems too. They | know how to design cheap and rugged machines of all kinds.  Under the | Soviets, car companies took the back seat of the bus, so had no opportunity | to strut their stuff.  But that was then and this is now. I would not | hesitate to buy a finely Russian designed, Chrysler-Russian jointly built | car, sold through Chrysler dealerships. | | Just maybe that Tamaraw FX-like $10,000 diesel utility vehicle can be | designed and brought to market in the States through such a consortium. I | see no reason why the U.S. Govenment could not sponsor such a worthwhile | project, since neither the Russian government nor Chrysler Corp. have the | seed money to do it right.  I think it could be done for 1/85th of this | year’s Iraqi war budget.  That’s a real bargain to recapture the low end | vehicle market from the Asians.  We’re talking about a million units a year | and all the jobs that go along with supplying materials, labor, sales and | servicing. | | This is a serious post. I have copywrited it to be sure everything so | stated here is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth and | irrevocably correct in its entirety, now and in perpeturity. | My guess is that a Russian vehicle would require $20,000 worth of work to meet all the federal crash, safety and emissions standards…now your $10,000 vehicle will cost $30,000 and it will still be a Russian POS when all is done.

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>For patriotic sake, you guys make still tout the Shuttle, >but not a single one of your would-be spacemen would take NASA >up on a free ticket.

You lose. Where do I go pick that ticket up?

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> This is a serious post. I have copywrited it to be sure everything so > stated here is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth and > irrevocably correct in its entirety, now and in perpeturity.

Terminal seriousness, or a troll? Get a life, loser.

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> Time is Ripe for Ruskie-Chrysler Car

Doofus, the top-selling car in Russia is the Lada, and AvtoVAZ production facilities cannot even keep up with the demand.  VAZ is not interested in export until they have saturation in the Russian domestic maker.  None of this is any big secret. Ted

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> Time is Ripe for Ruskie-Chrysler Car ><<snip>> > This is a serious post. I have copywrited it to be sure everything so > stated here is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth > and irrevocably correct in its entirety, now and in perpeturity.

Serious, you may be, knowledgeable, you are not. In non-legal definitions, "Copyright" effectively means that you "own" the rights to the work as published and that others cannot publish the work (a copy) without acknowledging your rights (often in the form of a royalty payment). For example, works of fact or fiction may be copyright. — Rickety

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> Time is Ripe for Ruskie-Chrysler Car > Doofus, the top-selling car in Russia is the Lada, and > AvtoVAZ production facilities cannot even keep up > with the demand.  VAZ is not interested in export > until they have saturation in the Russian domestic > maker.  None of this is any big secret.

The LADA and the NIVA(small 4×4) were imported into Canada from early 80s until mid 90s, though the sales fell off alot in the mid 80s. The Lada was ok, tractor like engine, but body was prone to rust. The NIVA was tough. There are NIVA clubs still in Toronto area – they share old parts to keep them on the road. James Linn

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> The LADA and the NIVA(small 4×4) were imported into Canada from early 80s > until mid 90s, though the sales fell off alot in the mid 80s. > The Lada was ok, tractor like engine, but body was prone to rust. The NIVA > was tough. There are NIVA clubs still in Toronto area – they share old > parts to keep them on the road.

Wasn’t Lada the car where, if you put it in reverse, the speedometer would run backwards? — "If, at first, you don’t succeed, try again.  Then, quit; no use being a damned fool about it." – W. C. Fields

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>> The LADA and the NIVA(small 4×4) were imported into Canada from > early 80s until mid 90s, though the sales fell off alot in the mid > 80s. > The Lada was ok, tractor like engine, but body was prone to rust. > The NIVA was tough. There are NIVA clubs still in Toronto area – > they share old parts to keep them on the road. > Wasn’t Lada the car where, if you put it in reverse, the speedometer > would run backwards?

I’m also not sure that the Lada owed anything to Russian engineering or design. iirc They bought the plant, dies, and complete production capability from Fiat to build the Fiat 124 locally. — Rickety

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> The LADA and the NIVA(small 4×4) were imported into Canada from early 80s > until mid 90s, though the sales fell off alot in the mid 80s. > The Lada was ok, tractor like engine, but body was prone to rust. The NIVA > was tough. There are NIVA clubs still in Toronto area – they share old > parts to keep them on the road. > Wasn’t Lada the car where, if you put it in reverse, the speedometer would > run backwards?

The speedometer ran backwards in the K-car. Once while spinning the wheels while trying to get out of a snow bank I saw it go counter-clockwise to 90km/h. When the person tried drive it went all the way around, past 140, past the odometer, back over to 40 km/h

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> Time is Ripe for Ruskie-Chrysler Car > Times have changed.  Russia and America now enjoy peaceful relations, just > like they did before the ‘17 revolution, and the time is ripe for a joint > car venture.  Decades ago, the Soviets tried the American market and found > it wanting.  Its a new ball game now. > Russian engineering gets respect by the public and plenty of it.  Just look > at the Proton and Soyuz rockets.  What rockets!  Dependable, safe, and you > know there good just by looking at their exhaust plume – a nice clean > flame, just like an O’Keefe & Merritt cooker.  No smoke belching like the > Space Shuttle.

Damn NASA, getting incomplete combustion with hydrogen and oxygen.

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> Damn NASA, getting incomplete combustion with hydrogen and oxygen.

The boosters are solid fuel, not Hydrogen/Oxygen. Ted

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